Obama, el imbatible campeón de la manipulación

September 19, 2008 at 4:23 pm 9 comments

Y no lo decimos nosotros, lo dice El Mundo a raíz de la noticia que comenta los resultados preliminares de un programa informático que detecta el nivel de manipulación en los discursos políticos. Los autores de este detector de mentiras políticas ya lo han probado con varios líderes políticos y los resultados pueden leerse aquí.


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Beers & Friends – Spain for McCain Obama & Chávez

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  • 1. fenix82  |  September 19, 2008 at 5:22 pm

    Dejad en paz a la gente proque si preferimos a Obama es porque no queremos un tercer reinado Bush , de todas formas no deberias hablar hasta que no aparezcan las armas de destrucción masiva, jajaja armas de destrución masiva? vaya cuento nosvendieron que nos costo un atentado y la vida de 200 personas por gilipollas e ir a un pais en el que no pintamos nada por que Aznar le lamiera el culo a Bush en su rancho, en fin VIva Obama racistas

  • 2. william masterson  |  September 19, 2008 at 9:42 pm

    Fenix, no mereces una respuesta.

  • 3. MegaZoide  |  September 19, 2008 at 10:03 pm

    Amigo Fenix, amable cateto, los atentados del 11-m , por la documentación incautada parece que se empezaron a planear ANTES de la guerra de Irak.

    Por cierto, tu sabes cuantos paises han ido a Irak? Sabrás decirme porqué sólo le han metido un zambombazo a España tres dias antes de unas elecciones generales? Quizás porque un gilipollas prometió retirar las tropas si ganaba? quien sabe todo influye…

  • 4. fenix82  |  September 20, 2008 at 3:32 am


  • 5. James Levy  |  September 20, 2008 at 6:20 am

    It is pleasing to see that Spain for McCain has become important enough to attract left wing ¨useful idiots¨ like fenix82.

    We see the level of his debating skill and the force of his irresistible force of his reasoning in his post number 4 above.

    The left is intellectually bankrupt. They can´t debate the issues, they can only chant slogans (We are the ones we´ve been waiting for!!) or literal nonsense, as does fenix82. The next step is to resort to threats of violence, another favorite tactic of the left…

    By the way, who was behind the 11M masacre? The Spanish government has fully investigated, of course. Curious how many CNI informants among those implicated. Maybe instead of blaming President Bush, you ought to actually read the court transcripts.

  • 6. Enneas  |  September 20, 2008 at 11:35 am

    Obama ha apoyado esta semana todas las medidas aprobadas por Bush. Ha demostrado que el cambio, en su discurso, no es más que retórica.

  • 7. blumun  |  September 20, 2008 at 12:05 pm

    Desde mi blog, yo tambien apoyo a McCain y a su vicepresidenta Sarah Palin, que me encanta.

  • 8. Troy  |  September 20, 2008 at 7:05 pm

    One commentator is called a useful idiot and remains on the site while I try to post about McCain’s recent slip, forgetting that Spain is in Europe and am blocked?

    Intellectually bankrupt slogan chanters?

    Let’s review a few ‘slogans’ from the aforementioned McCain interview where he states that he would stand up against, violators of:
    -human rights (guantanamo??)
    -democracy (American allies Saudia Arabia, Azerbaijan, Egypt?)
    -freedom (subverting democratically elected governments in S.America?)

    Even if you hate Zapatero, can you claim that he has violated any of these? When you listen to the interview, who sounds like a slogan chanter?

    To close, let’s march out a few old-time favourite Republican right slogans!
    -march to freedom
    -you’re either with us, or against us
    -high-strength aluminum tubes used to enrich uranium for nuclear weapons
    -pre-emptive war
    -Saddam Hussein sought significant quantities of uranium
    -mission accomplished
    -senior-level contacts between Iraq and al-Qaeda
    -Alliance with terrorists could allow the Iraqi regime to attack America without leaving any fingerprints
    -We are concerned that Iraq is exploring ways of using these UAVs [unmanned aerial vehicles] for missions targeting the United States
    -We have seen intelligence over many months that they have chemical and biological weapons, and that they have dispersed them and that they’re weaponized and that, in one case at least, the command and control arrangements have been established
    -Our conservative estimate is that Iraq today has a stockpile of between 100 and 500 tons of chemical weapons agent. That is enough to fill 16,000 battlefield rockets
    -We know where [Iraq’s WMD] are. They’re in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south, and north somewhat

    If Obama is truly such a grand manipulator, perhaps he has learned from the best?

    By the way, I will not be chanting, nor resorting to violence…Simply stating the facts and if this is once again not posted, I will once again be posting it on my blog.

  • 9. El adelantado de San Juan  |  September 22, 2008 at 4:12 pm

    Congrats, Troy: you’ve won the “slogan war”… wait, was there any war?

    @James: As we say in Spain “chapó”. One day the truth about 11-M will pop out. Unfortunately, it is very likely that the press will have to find out, just like the GAL, in the 80s and 90s, but it will come out.


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